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Helps for Marriage

When the Husband’s Fantasies & Desires Pushes his wife too far

By Kim Goodin 

If you have read our book you already know that it was I, Kim Goodin, the husband, who had the wild desires and fantasies mostly fueled by porn and television. Also from talking with other men I felt my desires were “normal”. I wanted to watch two women together and join in with them and I wanted to try wife swapping and the swinging lifestyle.  

As I shared in our book we went as far as meeting a few couples by phone and even went out for dinner once we felt safe. I remember how much Cindy didn’t want to get out of the car at the restaurant when we went to meet that first couple. For whatever reason we never could work out a good time to meet any of these couples for anything more except once. We were all set to meet this other couple who also had never done anything like this for a pizza party at their house. There were going to be porn, same room sex, and most likely swapping partners. BUT our youngest, Kristy, had a crying fit unlike any she had before, begging us not to leave her with my parents. She had always enjoyed staying with her grandparents so there was no reason for her fit other than it was God’s way of telling us to stay home. We finally called the other couple and canceled. We never got close to swinging or swapping after that beyond some discussing it.

Swingtown, a new TV show on CBS brings this sinful lifestyle right into any home with a television and a desire to watch such trash. It also brings this lifestyle out into the light as being “normal” and okay. I’m sure just 5 or 10 years ago such a program would never had been allowed on the airways.

With that said I would like to introduce you to a couple that we have met through our ministry. The names have been changed but the story is TRUE and told in their own words. We will call them Tim and Sue. Both are about 40 years old and have known each other since high school where they had met and even “enjoyed a strong sex life”. This is their story in their own words. 

“Tim” writes: My wife and I are in our late 30’s, college educated, a professional couple, with a nice house, 3 young kids, active in the community, devote church goers now, etc:  your Norman Rockwell kind of family.  But it wasn’t always that way. 

About 7 years ago we had fallen away from God.  We didn’t pray nor go to church.  We didn’t study our Bibles. Those group sex fantasies were so enticing to me.  I’d show my wife porn (internet and movies): scenes of not just women on women, but scenes of women taking on more than one man at a time.  It was my fantasy (in the beginning) and I pressured my wife with this onslaught of porn.  Without God in our lives it provoked a curiosity in her and with my insistent pressure she finally caved in. 

Our first meeting wasn’t with another woman, but actually with another man.  My sinful thinking at the time was to break her in on something she’s more comfortable with, two guys at once.  After that first meeting I actually felt regret.  Like this was something we shouldn’t do.  The Holy Spirit was trying to talk to me.  I actually wept and prayed.  But here’s the ironic twist.  My wife, who initially didn’t want to do it at all, now had a taste for the sinful pleasure of group sex.  I wanted to stop after the first time but now she (and the other man) was both pressuring me to continue. I easily caved in because I had pushed God so far aside in my life.  

Over the next few years we did threesomes with other men and couple swaps.  And my wife was sexual with other women.  We had started with some boundaries and rules but those all got thrown by the wayside and we fell deep into the lifestyle.  We’d become your full fledge swingers.  

Then… my wife had an affair with a guy we had been swinging with.  After their one on one meeting she felt total guilt for it.  The Holy Spirit came upon her in a major way.  She cried.  She prayed.  She eventually confessed her affair to me.  And you know what?  I didn’t go ballistic.  It suddenly hit me that I’d taken our marriage down a sinful path.  I took responsibility for getting us to that point.  

And please trust me on this… Getting into swinging was easy without God in our lives.  Getting out almost wrecked our marriage.  I knew we weren’t going to swing again but the lust for the lifestyle and my memories from it were tough to shake.  And my wife too, she was tempted with lusting after past pleasurable experiences.  But I can say we’ve come a long ways in a close walk with the Lord and moving past our sinful lifestyle days. 

My wife and I use to question why God allowed us down that sinful path.  We are both stronger now and learned a lesson… the hard way.  We feel if we can help just one couple keep from going through what we did then that’s our ministry.  We’ve witnessed to others before that were in the lifestyle and those considering it.  Our best recommendation is “FLEE” from it.  The temptation and pleasures of the flesh may be appealing but trust me… all sin has consequences and God will get one’s attention eventually.

It wasn’t just our pressure on each other to swing, but also the pressure from the other people we involved which compounded our temptation and fall.

Matt 18:20  “For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.”  Jesus spoke against the Jewish tradition that 10 or more had to congregate in a synagogue to define it as church.  Jesus said that with 2 or 3, coming together in His name, then they are a much more powerful group.  Now, think of what happens in the opposite direction.  When 2 or 3 come together in sin they are more powerful sinners.  In our threesomes and foursomes... the others we discussed, fantasized and actually did stuff with, the more powerful our temptation and fall to sin. 

Satan was a part of it.  Tempting us into sin and using all his resources on us: porn, flattery, fantasy, lust, etc.  And we fell. I once read that the women are the weaker vessel and now it made sense on how she succumbed to the pressure. 

1 Peter 3:7 “Husbands in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner…”  

Remember too, in Gen 3 the fall of Eve, she didn’t initially eat of the fruit.  She resisted at first but because she was the weaker vessel (2 Cor 11:3) she fell to Satan’s insistent pressure.  Just like Sue caving in to mine and other people’s insistent pressure. 

During our second stint in the lifestyle, yes I was the one that totally pressured Sue to start swinging again.  During our first meeting with another guy the second time around I chickened out and wanted out of the lifestyle.  I cried and even prayed about it.  But Sue and the other guy both pressured me into continuing in the lifestyle.  Once Sue got a taste of these pleasures of the flesh she became the instigator, the aggressor, and would put pressure on me.  Just because women are weaker doesn’t mean they can’t use whatever means they have to fulfill their own lustful desires.  Look at the story of Joseph and Potiphar’s wife in Gen 39.  This is a perfect example of the woman being the aggressor and putting the pressure on. 

Once I gave in I pushed aside the Holy Spirit that was providing me with a conscience and fell deep into the lifestyle.  Pressuring and dragging Sue even further into sin.  Ironically this same guy, who with Sue’s pressure also tempted me to stay in the lifestyle, is the one she had the affair with. 

When sin is involved all bets are off.  

This is what Sue had to share from her observations about swinging and the husband’s pressure to do so:

I thought I would reply to the conversation about women being with women.  There are many things about our swinging days that I don't like and especially don't like to think about at all.   

The tremendous pressure to be with another woman was something I got hit with constantly.  I heard a lot of how it was a dream of his.  Well, actually that is how we got into swinging to begin with.  The pressure of how it was something he wanted to do.  

Being with a woman was totally disgusting to me.  The first time it happened I asked to be blindfolded so I wouldn’t know who was actually doing anything to me.  I didn't want to know. I was totally uncomfortable with all of it including breast play or even kissing. Nothing about any of the experiences felt right.  Yes, there was pleasure.  That was the flesh talking. So I can actually say: that if I would have just stood my ground it wouldn't have happened at all.

I don't blame anyone but myself for my own sins.  I knew it was something I didn't want to do but I let it happen anyway.  It was my own fault. But I can say I have become stronger and I won't let anything like it happen again.

I don't hold any grudges either.  I could feel really resentful for the path we took in our marriage just like Tim could be resentful for the affair.  But with God's grace I have moved on and I don't hold on to any of the past memories.

Back to me, Kim, talking now: I know how hard it is to forget those past memories that haunt you. I believe it is Satan’s way of reminding you of how bad a person you are and in a way tempting you back towards those same sins. 

I share Tim and Sue’s story with you because it happens in a lot of marriages: husbands pressuring their wives into things they never should be asking them to do. I know of men who also play the “submission card”. In a way I know I did that. I would remind Cindy of how the marriage bed could not be defiled and how she was supposed to allow me to be the head of the house. She tried to be submissive and allowed me to lead her down the wrong paths.

MEN remember if you are the husband that you should be to your wife and you show her the love and support she deserves: she will naturally be submissive and happy to be so. YOU have to be the leader that God calls you to be and in being so be especially careful in where you lead your wife or what you ask her to do. 

Sexual acts within marriage are limitless. Sex is a wonderful gift from God for a man and woman to enjoy within marriage BUT it is to remain within marriage. Don’t invite anyone to join you in person, video, photos, or fantasy.  

Our story and the story of Tim and Sue are powerful stories of how far even a Christian couple can stray from what God has in store for their marriage. God’s plan and the role he calls the man and woman to play within marriage is the only way. This bond of God, husband and wife is what makes a marriage strong. Ecclesiastes 4:12 tells us: "A triple-braided cord is not easily broken." It is because of this bond that our marriage and the marriage of Tim and Sue were able to survive and come back from such a long walk down the wrong path.           

 


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